week 1

week 1

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Interests 

  1. I find it very interesting that this is what is used to show the ideal. This is what “perfection” looks like, and I think it’s interesting how this perfection is characterized. Equanimity, grace, devotion, and loyalty are highly favored (pg 2), and this is what people strive to characterize in their own lives. I find it really interesting that each character embodies a different ideal, and how the ideal manifests throughout the story. 
  2. I found the contrast in the women very interesting. It is set up like good versus evil, but I don’t think it is that clear or that easy to make that assumption. I think it’s fascinating that this the aspect that the author chooses to focus on with women. 
  3. At the very end, the author talks about whether or not this story is “true.” What was fascinating to me was the fact that this epic had a lack of history. Sattar also notes that this epic seemed to have characteristics of other gods. Sattar also notes that this epic could have grown across the centuries and that this could have been based on real people (pg 30). If that’s true, it’s incredible to see how far this story has come and the impact it’s had on cultures. 

Questions

  1. Why are the monkeys so important? Why is this the animal that they choose? What this the significance or symbolism behind them? I know several others have asked this too!
  2. How do women today view the story of Śūrpanakhā? Is this a part of the story that changes with different cultures (pg 1)? Is it really so important that he not be “ensnared by a woman’s charm” that they are able to mutilate her (pg 8)?


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Isabel, I agree that it's fascinating that this story is possibly true and based on real humans. With that being said, this could be the reason this epic is so popular. It's relatable to many due to these specific characters. It has survived many years of analysis, allowing every person to find a common ground. Therefore, it has lasted centuries.

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Isabel! I also found Sattar talking about the truth of the story very interesting and I even asked about research in the history of the Ramayana. It made me think about how many people will talk about how with the Bible, even though some things may not be historically accurate or provable, Christians can still hold the stories to be truthful. Even though scholars believe that epics can be traced back to some sort of real-life events, if the Ramayana cannot be traced back to any real-life events, it can still be held as truthful. Super interesting

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Hi Isabel! I loved your points and questions. I also thought it was interesting that Sattar discussed the "truth" of the story. It reminded me of discussions in Hebrew Bible about the historical accuracy of the texts, and how a text can have truth without being factual. It is so interesting that this same discussion occurs across traditions.

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by Cole Myers -
In another class I've reckoned with the idea of truth/fiction in relation to religious stuff. I came to the conclusion, in the case of the reality/fiction of Laozi the Daoist sage, that reality and fiction in these cases is irrelevant and the 'myth' is more important. I believe that texts like this have been compiled over centuries and edited and repackaged to suit the needs of the time.

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